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Old Tue May 16, 2006, 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by CelticNHBlue
How would you respond to a coach who came to you in a situation immediately following the play (before the next pitch) and said to you, "Blue, #17 just batted, but I have #19 on my lineup?"

This coach has not appealed anything to you. You will review the lineup, and may discover BOO, unreported sub, or an inaccurate lineup card. Would you acknowledge the coach with, "That is correct coach" and await a specific appeal, or would you determine the violation and assess the appropriate penalty? If the latter, wouldn't that be considered "filling in" (as you put it) the appeal to cover all appealable violations?

I agree with Mike in the sense that this coach has recognized something is wrong with the order in which players have/are batting and, just because s/he did not ask the specific question regarding the exact player, they have made the determination that something is wrong, and I would correct it, at that time.
Again, that is a "use the proper words" example rather than "appeal the proper thing" example. Add the following to your example.

Batting order is
#19
#21
#17
#22

#17 has just batted instead of #19. #21 has come up to bat and has taken one pitch. Coach does exactly what you said.

Coach has recognized that #17 batted in the wrong spot. Coach has not recognized that #17 is now legal and so #21 is also batting in the wrong spot.

You explain that since a pitch has been thrown, #17's at bat is legal.

Does coach then understand that #22 should now be due up and not #21? Am I supposed to explain that to him? Am I supposed to just correct it without an appeal?

Do we allow a generic "the batting order is screwed up - please fix it, Blue" as an appeal?

I guess so, but I never knew that.
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