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Originally Posted by BigUmp56
Who said that an 85 mph fastball doesn't appear to rise? It certainly wasn't me. It's all about perception and expectation. If a batter is looking for a 65 mph bender and a pitcher throws an 85 mph heater the ball will get on him much quicker that he expected and he will perceive that the ball exploded, or rose as it reached the plate. It seems to me that you wan't someone else to do the work for you. There are many, many articles on this subject available on the Internet. If you really want to know why the rising fastball is an optical illusion you need to some work for yourself.
Tim.
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I know exactly the explanation given for the supposed optical illusion.
I also know that an "exploding" fastball is not a rising fastball.
If a batter is expecting offspeed and gets a fastball his timing is screwed but he's not saying the ball is rising.
Of all the pitchers that legend has given the rising fastball ability, none have topped out at 85 with their fastball. No one has ever accused Greg Maddux of having a rising fastball, yet over the years he has confounded, confused and kept more hitters off balance than anyone else. If the optical illusion of a rising fastball was simply expecting one speed and the actual speed being 5-10 faster then Maddux should be the king of the rising fastball.
Like I've said in prior posts, the logic of the optical illusion doesn't add up.
You knew what I was driving at and you avoided the issue because you can't explain it.