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Originally Posted by blindzebra
I disagree completely, that some contact isn't a foul in this situation.
How can encircling a player that PREVENTS NORMAL MOVEMENT not be a foul?
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Is this not why we get paid the big bucks?
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
The rules also say that the trailing player, i.e. the player behind, is responsible for contact when they are in a disadvantaged position.
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Once again, this is why we get paid the big bucks.
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Is it technically possible that it can be done without contact? Sure, but it is a foul if there is contact before the tie up, IMO.
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I do not think anyone suggested that this would be done without any contact. Also the rules make it very clear that all contact is not a foul. So you will have to decide if the contact that takes place is a foul or not.
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Also I find that WAY too much contact is allowed while attempting to get a held ball, which gets rewarded with no foul. Grabbing, slapping and diving on another player is a foul, and it does not get called nearly enough.
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Once again, this is where judgment comes in. You have to decided when contact occurs if there is a foul. This is not at all an exact science and I for one cannot tell you what passes the test for you as compared to other officials. I think many of us said that we have either seen it take place without a foul or can understand why there is not foul. I would never suggest this situation always should be a no call. I have called many fouls on players that tried to grab the ball from behind or non-advantageous positions. I think I have called many more fouls than not calling fouls in these situations. The problem is we are mostly talking about theory and possible application. I think you should still call fouls when appropriate. Just understand that you cannot fit this situation into a one size fits all solution.
Peace