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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Speaking ASA
Of course, we are assuming the runner was off the base or you wouldn't have killed the ball.
Another fielder having a play is irrelevant. One of the umpires must determine if F4 would have retired a runner or BR if the ball did not hit the runner. If so, then the runner is out and the BR is awarded 1B.
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This is one of those dependent on which rule book and how you interpret "chance" to make a play or an out.