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Originally Posted by tcannizzo
Here is my interp:
From the ASA rule book, Points of Emphasis, POE #1:
"J) Force Out: If an appeal is honored at a base to which a runner was forced to advance and the out is a force out, no runs would score if it was the third out....
R2 was forced to advance to 3B.
. . .If the batter-runner is put out or is the first out on multiple outs on the same play, this would eliminate all force outs.
We can't take this literally.
Common sense can only mean if the B-R was retired before reaching 1B. And all runners to the next base. Therfore R2 was forced to 3B.
On an appeal play, the force out is determined when the appeal is made, not when the infraction occured."
In this sitch, the force out was made as a result of the appeal which puts the 3rd out as the force out.
Therfore no runs score on this play.
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1) The BR is a R after reaching 1st, so you can take it literally even though your understanding is correct.
2) "
On an appeal play, the force out is determined when the appeal is made, not when the infraction occured" is a rule; so if the force has been removed before the appeal is made, it is by rule no longer a force.