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Old Wed Dec 19, 2001, 11:36am
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Originally posted by DrakeM
I guess if you consider the best 60 plus referees in the world the minority, then you're right.
While you may not like the NBA philosphy, NO ONE studies the game, how it is called and the effects of referees
actions more the NBA.
Drake, I'll agree with you that the NBA refs are probably the best officials in the world (although a couple of the top NCAA guys may be better than a couple of the worst NBA guys). But they call the game the way the NBA brass wants it called. They call it differently from the way the NCAA or the NF wants it called. So using them as an example for how we should officiate our games is going to get us into a lot of trouble.

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I think it's interesting that the Pro game is blamed for bringing a more physical style of play mentality to the other levels. I find it just the opposite.
This is frankly laughable. The pro game is NOT responsible for the increased level of physical play at lower levels? Come on! Did I miss the little somewhere? While the NBA has in recent seasons attempted to cut down on the physical play within the league, the reason they've had to do that is b/c they had allowed it to get completely out of hand. The refs called almost nothing in the post until the offensive player had the ball. The defender was allowed to handcheck the dribbler all the way up the court. The "hard foul" was considered good defense against an easy bucket. All this CRAP filtered down thru the NCAA and into HS. To deny it is not defensible. Players -- and officials -- saw this on TV and starting playing -- and, sadly, officiating -- the same way. That's why the NF POEs include handchecking and rough play again. Last season, our NCAA assignors practically BEGGED us to call handchecking in the open court and backcourt. And that's why we have to call the "arm-bar" now, b/c the NBA allows it.

If you were really just kidding, then I apologize for over-reacting. Please tell me you were just kidding.

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The NBA is more concerned with not letting physical play get out of hand than other levels.
They even tried to implement the no-touch hand check rule.
Guess what, it may have stopped hand checking, but it wasn't good for the game. That's why they dropped it.
I think you're wrong again, Drake. They dropped it b/c it wasn't good for RATINGS. They all do it, so the refs have to call it, and the players didn't adjust. It made for too many whistles, and too many stars on the bench in the second quarter, which makes for ugly TV. Since the NBA is entertainment as much as it is a sports league, this is very bad.

You're not going to agree with me, which is ok, b/c all this stuff is not why I started this thread. The beginning of this thread is what it's all about for me. The big time refs call the game right.

Chuck
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