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Old Tue Apr 04, 2006, 10:34am
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Originally Posted by DadO3
I've searched the forum and I can't find a specific reference to this situation.

With runners on 2nd and 3rd.
My son, in an 11-13 year old league, swung at a pitch and the ball went between the 2nd and 1st baseman. He reached 1st base.

The runners on second and third scored.

Here's the gotch ya.
The ball actually hit his hand when he swung and not the bat, although he was holding the bat.
The call was made as a hit and the runners were not forced to return to their base since "the hands are part of the bat".

The other coach argued that this was a "hit by pitch" and therefore should have been a dead ball.

What should the proper decision be?

Thank you.
You have not yet received the proper answer. The REAL answer is Umpire Judgement.

From your thread:

The ball actually hit his hand when he swung and not the bat, although he was holding the bat.

The question? What did Blue see? If blue didn't see the ball hit the batter, then regardless of what you think, the play stands.

If the coach comes out to question Blue and says "Hey Blue didn't the ball hit the player first" and Blue responds with yes it did and falls victim to the myth "hands are part of the bat", then the coach can protest the ruling,

However, if Blue says "Skip in my judgement I didn't see the ball hit the player it hit his bat, then all bets off and Blue's ruling stands.

Side Note: Your scenario is why the BU needs to be alert. Sometimes the PU is screened on the play or has a bad angle, therefore, if the BU is paying attention like he/she is supposed to, then the BU as soon as he ses the ball hit B1 should call TIME and kill the play befroe any ensuing "action" follows.

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