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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Well, I hate to reply as I'm breaking my own vow, but note that it's my last one to you. As usual, it's a complete waste of time to try and debate anything with you.....but here goes...
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I love the self-righteousness that you always try to display on this site. You seemed to think that what you think is the only factor that matters.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
1) That's exactly what I've been saying. We do NOT know both sides.
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You have already passed judgment and you were not there. To say that you think based on what you read is the same thing as what you are accusing others of doing.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
2) Despite not knowing both sides, you believe that the black guy is right and the white guy is wrong. Why aren't I surprised?
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Just as usual you try to oversimplify the issue. Kentucky has a history of racism in officiating to the point the State Supreme Court had to mandate a racial balance in officiating assignments for every State Tournament. I did not just make that up, I heard that directly out of the mouth of Larry Boucher at an Official's Convention he spoke at in Illinois. Now I do not know about you, but that is a pretty big history to over come. I do not need someone to tell me that someone was racially profiled in a traffic stop to believe that it likely took place.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
3) Are you saying that the premise should be "guilty until proven innocent" instead? Doess that apply to all sides equally? Or just to one side?
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Innocent until proved guilty? You have got to be kidding me. If that is the case OJ was proven innocent in a criminal proceeding which was the first case he had to deal with. So if we are using the "legal" standard then no one has the right to say he killed his wife and her friend. Remember this is not a court of law we are talking about. This is a situation where we are reading a story and based on our own personal experiences we make a judgment. For me being Black and having faced similar situations (outside of officiating) I have to believe it is more likely that what Montgomery said took place. Now if that does not fit your "high" standards that is just too bad. You are not Black and you will never be Black. You have not experienced the many things I have over my life and you have not lived in the shoes of my family members. Remember we have schools in the south that still exist because certain people of color were not allowed to attend the mostly white schools and now you want to tell me that history means nothing because you say so. Whatever you say man.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
4) As usual, you have a comprehension problem. I'm NOT telling anyone how to feel at all. I defy you to find one instance in this thread where I came to any conclusion at all as to what happened in the dressing room. You're the one who's doing that by taking sides when there's absolutely no evidence to support either party. I'm saying that there's no evidence on hand to come to any conclusion as to what happened in the dressing room.
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I have a right to take sides on this or any issue. You do it every other post when someone comes here and tells us about what an official did or did not do when they person making the claim is a coach or fan. This is the same type of issue. If you do not like my point of view, then you will just have to get over it. I commented on what I feel I should have and I have made it clear why I feel that way. And yes, the fact me being Black affects how I view this situation or any other situation that goes on in the world. This is not different than your point of view when you are pointing out what you feel based on your officiating background.
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Might as well close this one now. It just went the way of all similar threads. I'm just surprised that it took this long.
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No, this should stay open. This conversation is not about us. I gave my point of view and I stand by that point of view. I know discussing racial issues makes you uncomfortable and maybe it should when you think the world is about your point of view only.
Now go back to claiming you do not read my posts (as if it matters to anyone but you) and trying to tell everyone how wrong they are for having a position on this issue not much different than your point of view. At least from the standpoint is none of us have the entire story and never will. Even if Bailey decides to come to this site and give a point of view, it will be "his" point of view. I know my point of view is based on what is likely, not what happen for sure. I am comfortable with that and either way I do not have a dog in that fight either way it goes. The story is just that to me, a story. I do not have to live with what happen or this did not happen in my state where the ramifications have far reaching concerns.
Peace