Jbduke, I forgot I even opened this can of worms.
I have argued this over and over with guys I know and their argument is way better than yours. How do you feel sorry for someone who cries all the time and has back surgery when his team is obviously going nowhere? Low blow, I apologize, but you get my point. I will open up a little more and tell you my side of the argument. Keep in mind, I'm from Indiana. Name 10 players of Bobby Knight's. The real fan will have no problem with that but I can tell you it will not start with Jordan, Worthy, Perkins, Dougherty, Wallace, Stackhouse, Fox, Carter, Smith...If you know what I mean. All that and two championships. The last time I checked, they played for the trophy at the end; ask Dean if he would trade 5 20-win seasons for one more championship and see what he says.
The colleges with the most talent of all time are UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kentucky. Compare that to championships won and tell me what you have. Roy Williams is running a close third in this argument to me because of the team he finally had to win it all. And you say talent doesn't win championships? Duke's three teams had major talent. UNC's three championships had major talent. Indiana's three championships had a couple of major players, a few coaches and some nice guys. In some ways Knight has put Texas Tech on the basketball map. Coach K's back would get hurt somewhere along the line if he tried that. Another low blow, I'm sorry. Why aren't Jim Harrick, Nolan Richardson, Tubby Smith and Calhoun in the same league with Smith and coach K? They won it all when they had talent. They didn't win it all when they didn't have talent. Year in and year out Duke and UNC stacks the talent up and make it to the final four. What about winning it all? UNC will probably be a #2 seed during a "down" year; they have the best freshman in the country and they are getting 3 more freshmen next year (at least two of them will start).