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Let's take the equations BU56 provides.

The first term is gravity (DOWN), the second term is vertical rise/fall rate of an object in horizontal motion (LIFT) and the last term is the initial height.

The only thing I have read that would add any LIFT on this thread is SPIN. Some argue that spin on a 135 mph fastball will RISE. NO one has provided a lift coeffcient/spin rate conversion factor to calculate RISE. If I set spin to ZERO, this PITCH would fall throughout its 1/2 second journey.

To properly understand LIFT, one must admit that the horizontal flightpath of a 100 mph baseball must add an energy component in the positive vertical direction. I state that there are many existing outside forces that add to this LIFT rate. ALL are more or as equally important to SPIN.

You ignore these factors when you neglect air resistance. Yet you swear that a baseball CANNOT RISE. I wouldn't hold my breath on your version of REALITY. Myth or reality; I know which one the rest of the world is putting their money on.

Try as you might, the pack mentality has provided me with the entertainment value I need to keep going UP the LADDER. Those strikeout records speak for themselves.