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Originally posted by tomegun
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by tomegun
Dan, is this something you are in the habit of doing when your partner has a block/charge call and you end up right in front of the coach? I just don't see myself explaining like this a lot. This explaination could go for any call.
BNR, I have yet to work with someone big enough or mean enough to not ask them WTF were you doing "consoling" (that is what it looks like most of the time) that coach after I gave a T. Call me crazy. 
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I am in the habit of NOT ignoring a coach's question. That goes double if I'm standing right next to him. If I have something to say I'll say it, if not I won't. You don't like that? Tough.
I am not in the habit of taking someone's comment on a particular play and using it to assume that is how they behave always. Something you seem to enjoy.
I am also not in the habit of ever yelling at partners, or being yelled at by partners. Luckily I run into very, very few of these types but the ones who feel the need to yell will be told to stop. Call me crazy. :shrug:
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Let me back up. Yelling my be stretching what I would do, but there still isn't a reason why an official should have a discussion with a coach after a T. The calling official doesn't need help with the T and they sure don't need help explaining the T.
I'm not in the habit of taking someone's comments to mean they do something all the time either. Nor, do I enjoy talking about something that happens even though others would like to live in a dream world thinking it doesn't.
I do not ignore a coach, where did I say that? There is no way I can know what my partner(s) call and their reasoning unless it is a play where we have a double whistle. For that reason, I'm not going to give an explaination. Even if the explaination I give would be what I saw, it isn't fair to assume that is what my partner had when I 1. wasn't sure and 2. didn't have a whistle of my own.
When I say things like this it is because it isn't, IMO, good practice to do them. Unlike some, I cannot make a final judgement on someone's good or bad officiating skills based on the ability to read a rule book and type. However, I have seen these things in the flesh and speak of my own similar experiences. I know when something on this board applies to something I do and when it doesn't. I also know when something is discussed that I have awareness of. If these things don't happen to others, I'm not faulting them, but I know I have seen them. :shrug: That is all I'm saying.
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Dan_Ref this what I think
tomegun is trying to say.....
Just Kidding
Tome......just keeping the mood like on this beautiful Friday afternoon.
It all depends on with whom you are working. There is a very good official on my HS board who operates under the same philosphy as you
Tome. So I know when I'm working with him to stand back and let him handle all his own business. But then again, I work with other outstanding officials who don't mind if I address a coach in their stead b/c they trust whatever I'm saying will not be detrimental to the crew. Just a matter of knowing the people you work with and adjusting accordingly. Just like players and coaches, we officials all have our own personalities, as well as our own quirks and pet peeves. Which all makes for good forum fodder.