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Originally posted by NIump50
Those who do not have brains that evolved from the amoeba understood the two points I was trying to make.
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Wait a minute... are you trying to imply that those of certain religious persuasions have brains that evolved from different sources than those with different persuasions?
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1. Spinning objects can rise depite gravity.
Therefore a mere gravitational argument against a rising fastball is not sufficient.
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Of course. That's why the bulk of the discussion revolves around SPIN (and specifically what effect spin has on a ball). Did you even read the links? But gravity can be calculated - and is the basis of the argument in that you know exactly how much acceleration downward must be counteracted by whatever other forces are acting on the ball.
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2. I admitted that I have not taken the time to understand aerodynamics of why the bullet rises.
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Yes, this is obvious. Among other things.