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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Rick82358
That AR doesn't cover it directly.
but it does say that you can not have a try with .3 seconds on the clock or less - which means you could not have a shooting foul.
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That's completely irrelevant to my question. The A.R. doesn't cover a "tap" situation at all as far as I can see. That A.R. says that you can't have "possession and a try". Iow, if you grab the ball, then you can't have a try. And if there's no "try", then you can't have a foul during that try. That's logical, I guess. However, that's a completely different situation than "tapping" a ball. If you tap the ball with less than 0.3 seconds on the clock and it's in the air before the red light goes on, then that is a "try" also and that tap(try) would count in that case. There's different types of tries....and a "tap" type try is different from a try with possession.
And....if a player is fouled in the act of tapping, and that tap subsequently goes in and is counted, I can't see how the rules could also say that you can't have a foul in the act of tapping if there's 0.3 seconds or less on the clock.
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The rule does not say that, it only says you can't catch and shoot at .3 seconds or less.
A tap can occur at this point. A tap is a try. A foul on the tap is the same as a foul on a try. So with .3 seconds or less you can have a shooting foul on a tap, but not on a catch & shoot.
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Thank you for the clarification. That was my take too.
So.....to sum up, on that particular throw-in being discussed, with 0.3 seconds or less on the clock, you could have (1)a common foul if it occurred during the throw-in but before the tap (2) A shooting foul if the foul occurred on the tap and before the light came on, or (3) an intentional or flagrant personal foul could also be committed on the tapper if either happened before the light came on. And NFHS rules would be the same for these situations.
Correctamundo?
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I think we agree, but what do I know?
I aint one of them daytime TV judges.
I don't even like jello pudding.