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Originally posted by mplagrow
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
If the "poke-er" makes a little incidental contact, there's still nothing to call, just as you wouldn't call anything Just because they "reached in" from the front. I mean, you wouldn't, would you?
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If the "poke-er" reaches from behind as the pokee dribbles away from him I call it.
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Even without contact?
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I've almost never seen a player use this playground move successfully without *some* sort of arm or body contact. (I say almost never because I believe you should never say never.)
It's bad defense and to let it go introduces all sorts of ugliness into your game. IOW, I've got to be 118% sure there was no contact before I'll let it go.
Nip it.
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It's bad defense--unless B1 manages to poke the ball out to a teammate who takes it in for a layup. I'll agree that I'd rather see B1 in LGP, squared up, but I don't know if I'm ready to categorize making a play for the ball from behind as bad defense. I've seen guards who were quite good at the "stealth steal."
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As a rule, guards who know how to steal the ball do not poke around their oppponent or poke from behind.
As a rule coaches who know how to teach steals give their players hell when they try this playground move.
In my experience anyway.
But it does happen every now & then, which is why I need to be 118% sure there was no contact before I let it go.