Sun Feb 19, 2006, 01:47pm
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
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Originally posted by wadeintothem
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
ASA
8.1.D.4 A batter become a batter-runner.
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or attempted bunt, the catcher or any other fielder prevents the batter from hitting the ball, touch the batter or theri bat with a runner on third bse trying to score by means of a squeeze play or a steal
EFFECT: The ball is dead. The runner shall be awarded home plate and the batter shall be awarded first base on the obstruction. All other runners shall be advanced one base if forced.
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Did you see this sentence? The ball is dead
If the umpire has judged the runner from third was trying to steal home, the BALL IS DEAD! End of story! Period! Elvis has left the building! It's what's in the rule book.
There cannot be a hit, because as even the least educated umpire knows that once a ball is ruled dead, nothing else can occur which means there cannot be a hit.
As an umpire, you have two choices, kill the ball and apply the effect or determine that the runner on third was NOT attempting to steal home at the time of the CO.
Your option, but as Ed, WMB & myself noted, this is the rule which is all any of use where trying to say in the first place.
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Ha, thats absoluetely absurd.
OK in WMBs scenario I judge the runner wasnt stealing hence WMB's answer is incorrect and mine was correct.
Youre as well versed probably as just about anyone but you are bobbling the ball on this rule IMO mike, and not only that, I think you are smart enough to know it.
You dont judge a players actions based on what rule you want to apply mike. You judge the players actions THEN apply the appropriate rule based on what happened.
Call what you see.. its simple.
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Figure out what rule you want to apply then judge player actions to fit the rule you've chosen.
[Edited by wadeintothem on Feb 19th, 2006 at 10:48 AM]
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Whatever. We're discussing apples and you're entrenched in an orange grove. Or maybe it's standing by the fence sipping your water while your "partner" has a problem.
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now now mike lets not get mean..
But now that I think of it, sipping water might be a good idea after you call CO and remove a offensive teams home run as just punishment for the batter getting obstructed by the catcher. That'll teach the batter not to get obstructed.
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