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Originally posted by wadeintothem
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
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Originally posted by wadeintothem
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Originally posted by Ed Maeder
ASA 8-1-D-4b NFHS 8-1-1e pen
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I knew you were gonna say that.. you are not understanding the difference between a swing/attempted bunt and a hit when applying the rules .. or the decided disadvantage you place the offense in applying the rules in the manner you are IMO... because of the hit its DDB .. had the batter swung at the pitch or attempted to bunt, it would be immediate dead ball (as opposed to letting some wild play ensue after an OBS when the ump knows the result, so the play is simply killed.. whereas with the hit you would offord the opportunity to the offense to get a better result.)
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Speaking ASA
Ed is correct. The rule allows for three different occurences:
1. prevents the batter from hitting the ball (no)
2. touch the batter (no) OR
3. their bat. (yes)
The rule applies if any of the three occur.
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So bases loaded, CO, ball hit to fence with runners going..a obvious double with 2 maybe 3 runners scoring..instead because of CO you call immediate dead ball and do 1 base?
Sorry I dont agree and at this point i dont see where case plays support this opinion...
Willing to learn here, but this is killing a play in a DDB situation shifting it in favor of the defense.
Why not tell your catcher if a HR hitter is up.. on the squeeze obstruct the batter?
Or.. if the hitter hits the ball hard on the squeeze dance around like the batter hit your glove, you might draw the call.
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I think you need to reread the rule. This applies to a squeeze play or steal. Simply running on the pitch is neither. Like many other instances, the umpire is going to need to render a judgment on the play.
BTW, if I'm R1 and the B takes a full cut while I'm attempting to steal home, that SOB better keep running straight to the parking lot beyond 1B, 'cause if I catch'em, I'm going to hurt them!
