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Originally posted by mcrowder
Sitch 3, we'll call it:
BR rounds first, comes to a full stop, decides to proceed to 2nd. F1 oblivious or motionless, with ball in circle. BR crashes into F4, stopping, and RETURNS TO FIRST.
LBR? OBS? Was the LBR transgression, in this case, CAUSED BY the OBS, or was it a separate illegal act by the runner? I admit, this one has me wondering what I'd do if faced with it on the field.
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I would handle this the same as Sitch #2. BR crashes into F4, I have OBS and the left arm goes out. After the OBS, BR stops, at this point we have a violation of the LBR and the BR would be out. However, she cannot be put out between first and second because she was obstructed between first and second. I kill the play and award BR the appropriate (more on this below) base. I stand by my interpretation that LBR is
not an exception to the OBS rule.
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Also - 1 question for Andy. Seems you'd rule that the OBS trumps the LBR. What base are you giving her? Would it matter if the collision got the pitcher's attention, and she fired to 2nd? If the contact happened, say, only 1/3 of the way to 2nd, do you award 2nd, or just back to 1st?
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As you stated, the award is a HTBT situation. It would depend on the location of the OBS, what the pitcher was doing or not doing, etc. You notice that I did not commit to a specific base in any of my earlier responses. So, to answer your question, I would assess the situation and award.......the appropriate base.
Side note: Even though I appear to be the minority opinion here, I am enjoying the discussion. Thanks to all for keeping this a civil thread.
I'm also going to run this by Emily and see what her take on this play is. I'll let you all know what I find out.