[JRutledge]

I agree with Dan completely. It really does not matter what others think or what the rulebook says. It is clear to me when a coach uses the term they want something called when no contact is present or no advantage is gained so they can get an advantage. They think complaining is going to work so they complain until they realize call something in their favor. Nothing that we discussed here is going to change anyone's mind on this topic nor should it. I just know I cannot talk to new official about year old POEs that I am not going not going to show them. There is a reason they make new rulebooks ever year.

Peace