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Old Sun Jan 08, 2006, 08:11pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by Camron Rust

It's clear that your mind is closed and unwilling to consider what the man actually did instead of the rumors an emotions you hold onto. History is full of people who were portrayed with lies and deception to further an agenda. Do you not think it is a valuable recruiting tool for opposing recruiters to use...especially against the most dominant program across the decades?
Camron, I like the fact that you are passionate about this issue, but I do not have to accept your way of thinking just because you post this on a discussion board does not change the feeling that I have on this issue. I am sorry that that upsets you, but I have observed, read, and listen to those that lived at that time and simply used that information and came to my own conclusion.

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
The points you make...along the lines of so-and-so said this, who heard if from someone who heard it from someone...are, while sensationial and worthy of the National Enquirer, are at best gossip. Rupp is a popular target because he was famous and happened to be on the wrong side of a historic event. The point of him being a racist didn't even arise until 20 years after his death...when it became fasionable to peg people as racists and writers decided to rewrite the Texas Western game as a racial event when none of the participants even agree that was the case.
We could debate this to the end of time. I do not have to accept your point of view (and I will not accept your point of view) on this issue just because you say it is so.

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
It would be a lot more fair to pick someone who can defend himself than to accuse someone who can't answer the accusations.
I think anyone here or any place can say whatever they want to about someone that was in a public position. Rupp has his name on a building that is at a public university and anyone has the right to debate the legacy of that individual. It is very fair for anyone to make comments about this man because a lot of the things he did or said were clearly in the light in very public. It is not like Rupp was saying things and behaving in ways behind closed doors. Kentucky had such a legacy of racism and sexism that they currently have in place by law that the officials that work the state finals have to fit a certain racial and gender breakdown each year because of that history(according to a Larry Boucher, Kentucky High School Athletic Association official while speaking at the IHSA Official's Convention in 2004). We can debate all day what Rupp did or did not do, it is not going to matter one bit. It is an interesting debate, but not a significant one.

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