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Originally posted by tomegun
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Originally posted by refTN
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Additionally, in HS and NCAA, there is no pivot foot after a jump stop (or hop-stop or whatever we want to call it). A1 catches the ball, lands on one foot, jumps off that foot and lands on two feet simultaneously. At that point, A1 may not pivot.
However, in the NBA, the "landing on two feet" is the second "count", and A1 is allowed to pivot.
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It depends on the gather in both leagues whether you can pivot or not. If a player ends on the count of two in the NBA there is no pivot. If you end on the count of one you may pivot.
In college if you virtually gather the ball while in the air and land with both feet simultaneously you may pivot. If you gather it with one foot on the floor, and jump stop you may not pivot or land with a one-two count. Although I don't need to be telling you about the college rule, but I do know the NBA rule.
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OK, how much experience do you have with either rule? I know you aren't IN the NBA and we all know you will be hard pressed to find substantial footage of this call on film. For HS and college I would like for you to send me a clip of someone gathering the ball while they are in the air and I will support you. Until then, the vast majority of my experience has been the dribbler gathering the ball before they are in the air. Also, if the feet land close to the same time, I agree it would be nit-picking. However, most of the time it IS called because it isn't close together. I will always tell you I appreciate your enthusiasm, but do not get caught up thinking knowing the rules word for word is a substitute for experience.
I don't know how long you have been working but I think there isn't anywhere in the country with the volume of the DC area. There are officials here who think they have this licked after 4 years, and they don't. For comparison, I think one year here in DC is about the same as 2.5 years in Las Vegas or Phoenix. How much to you work where you are at?
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You are right, it is hard pressed to find a move where a player gathers the ball in the air but all the web plays I have show most plays in slow motion after you see it in real time, but when you watch it in real time you can't really distinguish so why not just give the benefit of the doubt?
Actually the only film I could show you is NBA footage. So if you can tell me how to send it to you since I am pretty much computer illiterate, I will. I mean as far as sending a film as an attachment on email or what not.