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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Hmm.. try this play. A1 is dribbling from BC to FC. In order, the following happens:
1) A1's left foot hits the floor in the FC. (one "point")
2) The ball hits the floor in the FC. (two "points")
3) The ball bounces up off the floor and hits A1's left knee. (interrupted dribble)
4) The ball bounces to the BC.
5) A1 moves entirely to the BC and recovers the ball.
BC violation? I think not.
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I don't believe this is a very instructive play as far as shedding any light on the original play. The above is obviously not a backcourt violation as the ball never touched the frontcourt during the interrupted dribble. It only touched there during the dribble. During the interrupted dribble the ball hit a player who has backcourt status due to his having one foot in the backcourt. So the ball has backcourt status the entire play.
If we were to alter this play so that it becomes:
4. The ball now bounces on the floor in the frontcourt and then goes into the backcourt without touching any player. 5. After the ball has bounced in the backcourt, A1 moves entirely to the BC and recovers the ball.
I have a backcourt violation here. I'd bet that Tony doesn't.
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
To help answer the question of "does it matter who touches the ball", apply the case where A1 (having dribbled) passes the ball to A2 who isn't looking, and A1 runs and recovers the ball. This becomes a dribble (and a violation) when A1 touches the ball.
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This isn't applicable either. In play #1 we don't have any player making a second dribble or throwing a pass which becomes a dribble by definition. We have an interrupted dribble and everyone agrees upon that. Double dribble violations simply don't enter into play.
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Change the play slightly so A1 is standing in the BC and hasn't dribbled. He passes to A2 and the ball reaches the FC. A1, standing in the BC, recovers the ball. From the case play referenced above, we know it's a dribble. Thus, it isn't a BC violation.
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I agree. You give a play that is clearly a dribble by definition and an NFHS interpretation. We need a play that is an interrupted dribble to enhance the discussion.