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Originally posted by lmeadski
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by lmeadski
if the defender leans back all the way to the floor (a real long lean, sometimes referred to as falling), the defender still has LGP?
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I'm not sure that this question ever got answered amongst the insults and requests for the squirrel picture, but the general answer is yes, as long as nothing in 4-23-3 was violated.
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I went back and re-read 4.23.3. According to that, it does seem that a player can have LGP even if he is falling to the floor. However, the rule on flopping (10.3.7.F) makes it clear that flopping is a T (which most feel is an unwarranted call, myself included, in most cases). I see this in my head better than I can explain, sorry: A1 is in LGP. In anticipation of contact with dribbler B1, A1 begins a flop (not protecting, flopping). As A1 is on his/her way to the floor, B1 finally makes contact with A1 and trips over the almost prone defender (remember, A1 is not on the floor yet). From what I am hearing, the concensus is foul on B1 for charging into A1, who is still in a LGP. Got it.
[Edited by lmeadski on Dec 31st, 2005 at 07:35 PM]
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First off A1 is always on offense when you present a play.
Second, B1 is allowed to turn or duck to absorb contact, that is
COMPLETELY different than bailing out, doing the limbo, or selling contact that has not yet occurred.
If that lean is not for self protection, no way am I calling a charge when contact occurs
AFTER B1 is going down.
It's a no call or a block.