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Old Sat Dec 31, 2005, 06:06am
Nevadaref Nevadaref is offline
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I just thought of another play with similar key aspects to the situation that we are discussing.

A3 is fouled by B3 in the act of shooting an unsuccessful two point try. Just after the official sounds the whistle and calls the foul, A3 retaliates by shoving B3. A3 is charged with a technical foul. The technical foul is A3's fifth accumulated foul (personal and technical) of the game. However, the scorer fails to notify the officials until after A3 attempts both FTs for the personal foul and B1 attempts both technical FTs. A3 and B1 each made both FTs. The scorer notified the officials of A3's fifth foul prior to the ball being placed at the disposal of a member of Team B for the division line throw-in. Clearly A3 should not have been allowed to remain in the game and attempt those FTs per 2-8-3, 10-5-3, and 4.14.1SitA.

2-8-3 The officials shall:
"...Remove a player from the game who commits his/her fifth foul (personal and technical)."

10-5-3 ". . . The head coach must replace or remove a disqualified/injured player, or player directed to leave the game, within 30 seconds when a substitute is available, while within the confines of his/her bench."


"DISQUALIFICATION
4.14.1 SITUATION A: A1 is fouled by B1 while Team A is in the bonus. The covering official is at the table reporting the foul when A1 is charged with a technical foul by the official who is observing the players. The foul on A1 is his/her fifth. RULING: A1 is disqualified as both personal and technical fouls are counted. Because A1 has been disqualified he/she will not be allowed to attempt the free throw(s) resulting from B1's foul. The substitute for A1 will shoot the free throw(s). (8-2)"


Is this a correctable error? Should A3's FTs count?
(I thought that there was a case book play or NFHS interp on this, but I can't seem to find it. Can anyone help?)

We must consider the following in making our ruling:

4-14 DISQUALIFIED PLAYER
"ART. 1 . . . A disqualified player is one who is barred from further participation in the game because of having committed his/her fifth foul (personal and technical), two technical fouls or a flagrant foul.
ART. 2 . . . A player is officially disqualified and becomes bench personnel when the coach is notified by an official."


2-11-11 Note 2.
"The procedure if a player who has committed his/her fifth foul continues to play because the scorer has failed to notify the official is as follows: As soon as the scorer discovers the irregularity, the game horn should be sounded after, or as soon as, the ball is in control of the offending team or is dead. The disqualified player must be removed immediately. Any points which may have been scored while such player was illegally in the game are counted. If other aspects of the error are correctable, the procedure to be followed is included among the duties of the officials."

"DESIGNATED FREE THROWER
8.2 COMMENT: When A1 is designated to attempt a free throw(s), no other player shall be permitted to make the attempt unless A1 is injured or disqualified prior to the attempt. If the wrong player attempts the free throw, it may be corrected as prescribed in 2-10. In certain situations, the attempt by the wrong player may be due to a justifiable misunderstanding. In such case, there should be no penalty. But, if it is a situation in which it is reasonable to expect the player to know that he/she is not the proper one to attempt the free throw, a technical foul for unsporting conduct shall be called. In this situation, the proper player is entitled to his/her free throw(s) which will be followed by the administration of the technical foul. (10-3-7f)"



My ruling is that A3 is not disqualified until the coach is notified, so A3 was a legal player even though he should have been replaced and should not have been permitted to attempt the 2FTs. A3 clearly was the player who was fouled. I'm counting both of A3's FTs as well as B1's and now taking care of A3's disqualification before resuming the game with Team B's throw-in.

What are the thoughts of others?





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