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Originally posted by tomegun
"See the whole play" works for me as long as someone doesn't take that term the same as a singular play and a patient whistle. It is a better term than telling someone to "ref the D."
I will slightly disagree with one thing: If I'm on-ball, I will be aware of possible players that could set a pick. ************************************************** ************ I was going to say I wouldn't be aware of another matchup but when I thought about it, I will be aware of other matchups in my area.
I would like to point out that JR's argument about the term "ref the matchup" had more to do with re-inventing a term and less to do with a small chip on his shoulder. See the whole play, when used in the proper context, is the most complete term but ref the matchup is still a better term than ref the defense. Others have simply criticized someone (it wasn't me) for a term even though they can't admit that term gives a better description of what they actually do on the court than ref the d. To make a long story short, don't have a closed mind and grow up (not you JR, I can appreciate a good counterpoint with substance).
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I'm pretty sure you're referring to me.
I was not trying to deny that "ref the match up" is probably more complete than ref the D if you're trying to sum up all the actions on the court.
The thread was talking about block/charge. To determine block/charge, Ref the D is fully and completely adequate. If you know what the D did, you'll know who to call for a foul.
If you want to expand the context to cover more than contact then there are certainly better expressions..."see the whole play". Ref the matchup is ok but there are a lot more things going on than "the matchup".
No need to get childish in your arguments (i.e. "closed mind....grow up"). There was no need for much substance in my post since others had already expressed the relevant points.