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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by tomegun
I just read all three pages of this thread and wanted to hit the quote button many times, in response to a post. IMO, Bob and Dan have this situation in check. I think many others just want to run past 7 players to watch three and make a call. Why? The T has also been criticized for not making it down the court. Why? Again, why should he run past all the other players so he can get into a good T position for a break?
When reading posts about his position during the shot, it makes me wonder how many people have officiated a BV game lately with 2 people. There will be plays where you can't make it to the position you would be at during a half court set. 10 (players) divided by two (officials) is 5 (to watch), right? I think the T was handling more than his fair share on this play, even though he hasn't mentioned watching those 7 other players.
By the way, does Trail mean we should trail the ball or the players? I was taught to trail the players, which in this case 7 were not involved in the play. Things could happen far worse than a perceived call that was missed.
Is a 5th year official that is new to varsity really a rookie? I would hope that he has developed a feel for the game at this point in his career. Also, O did not mention whether he asked the "rookie" what he saw on the play and his response. Like it was mentioned previously, since the player landed on his feet, it might have been a play the L passed on. We also didn't hear of any reaction from the 3 players involved in the play or what type of player A1 had been up to this point. To me, all this plays a part in what could have happened BUT, I'm not going to look past 7 players to make such a long-distance call.
I don't think the credibility of the rookie goes down, I think the credibility of the T goes down. You would/could be perceived as an official who is ball-watching and if I was so inclined - as a coach - I might try to take advantage of this by doing something boarderline off-ball. How can you explain to coach B what you saw from 70 feet away that the L couldn't see right on the play? I just thought of this - was A1 facing away from the T (probably) during the shot (which wasn't really a shot)? O, where do you think the contact occured?
I'm sorry for the sarcastic comments in my post. However, I don't think enough posters are giving a reason why the T shouldn't make this call as opposed to the many who are saying why he should have made this call. The reasons for not making this call are far more mechanically sound. Also, the performance of the "rookie" is the responsibility of the "rookie" and the assigner who puts him in games (situations).
My 2 cents, and I got my money's worth!
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Where in the post did it say the other 7 players all stayed deep in the backcourt?
In 2 person, you do not always have the luxury of boxing in all 10 players on every play, if you want to call the game, anyway.
I can't speak for everyone, but the question asked was should trail get this?
My response was that if trail would have ran, they would have:
a) Seen the play better, to know if they actually needed to help.
b) Been in a position to close and make a call from a reasonable distance and not 70 feet.
Not to sound mean, but unless you are in an area that is still using 2 person and are having to cover the court without that backside help of a center official, perhaps those questioning the need for trail to bust arse to help in 2 person coverage, need to re-look at the situation.
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How far would a new trail (old lead) official get, realistically, if a pass is picked off at midcourt and taken in for a layup. Consider (and I recognize that this isn't exactly what happened on the play in question):
(1) The old lead was on the baseline
(2) The steal was out of the old lead's primary
and the player stealing the ball was probably at or near the three point line before the new trail got completely ON THE COURT. That official's nort going to get terribly far even IF he/she runs like a jackrabbit. That's why you can manage to officiate with 2, but you're not always going to get the backside help you'd like.