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Old Thu Dec 15, 2005, 03:34am
Daryl H. Long Daryl H. Long is offline
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Daryl H. Long
I believe the NF makes mistakes in their printed material and will call them on it when I see it. If you don't belive the NF makes mistakes then read 3.4.15 Situation A on page 3 of the 05-06 NF Case Book. The ruling is WRONG. The correct ruling is A1 is a PLAYER and he alone gets the T. his status as a player does not change just because it is halftime.

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The ruling is wrong and DFaryl H. Long is right?

You really ought to read the rule book more often, Daryl.

Rule 3-3-3- "A player becomes bench personnel after his/her substitute becomes a player or after notification of the coach following his/her disqualification".

His status changed from "player" to "bench personnel" as soon as the coach was notified of his disqualification. That's why the head coach get's an indirect "T"- he's responsible for the conduct of all "disqualified teammembers and all other bench personnel" as per the exact wording of rule 10-4. The penalty listed for violations of R10-4 says that the head coach gets an indirect "T" and the offender gets a direct "T".

That statement on p.3 of the case book is consistent with all of the pertinent rules in the rule book.

And whatintheheck does "halftime" have to do with anything? Halftime isn't mentioned in the statement on p.3 of the case book or anywhere in the actual case play. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thank you for such an eloquent dissertation on why the NF Ruling is correct on page 3 of case book for 3.14.15 situation B. I agree wholeheartedly. Perhaps it is YOU who needs to read more carefully.

I said 3.4.15 Sit A is incorrect.
I said 3.4.15 Sit A is incorrect.
I said 3.4.15 Sit A is incorrect.

On second thought I will type it here for you.

3.4.15 Situation A: After the horn sound to end the first half, A1 removes his/her jersey near the team bench: Ruling: a technical foul is charged to A1 and an indirect technical foul is charged to the head coach; A1 is considered bench personnel in this situation. (10-3-7)

The NF ruling is WRONG. Even though it is halftime A1 is still a PLAYER. Why? Because his status remains as a player until the criteria you mention above per 3-3-3 are met. He has not been substituted for nor has he been disqualified.

The correct ruling is: A technical foul is charged to A1 only. Since this foul occured after the expiration of playing time for the second quarter, the third quarter will be started with 2 free throws by any player of team B and then Team B will be given the ball out of bounds for a throw in at the division line. Since this is not an AP throw in the arrow will not be changed. (10-3-7h)

BTW: For 3.4.15 Sit B the citation at the end only applies to part (a) of the Sit. The NF has omitted the proper rule citation for part (b)which is 10-4-1h.
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