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Originally posted by Suudy
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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Holding is a 10 yard foul. If the LS is within the 10, then applying 10y reaches the GL. Therefore, it is HTD and AFD. And we don't scrimmage from within the 1, because we have a 1y NZ.
Let's say it was 2D/12 from the 18 (having to get to the 6). A defensive 10y foul goes HTD (not 10, b/c 10 > 9), but is *not* an AFD.
IOW, when we say reaching the GL, we mean an AFD.
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But it doesn't reach the GL. It only goes half the distance. But I think I see what you are saying. If the penalty, unrestricted, were to reach the GL, automatic first down.
So if on the 1, going in, if there is a defensive penalty, it stays at the 1, automatic 1st down.
What about the 1 going out and an offensive penalty? Do you go back to the half in that case, since you can still get the 1 yard NZ? And the automatic first down only applies to going into the EZ?
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No. We stay at the 1. But, we do have to penalize something, so it is a loss of down. On 3rd down, we do not lose a down, because that would just cause a turnover, and that's not cool. So we just repeat the down. The timing rules that exist prevent the running out of the clock at the end of the game.