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Originally posted by Suudy
Going on this explanation, if the unrestricted distance would've resulted in a first down or the goal line being reached then a first down is awarded.
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Ok, these two are losing me. First, the Canadian sounds very American football-like. No more than half the distance, unless the line to gain is reached (or a penalty that awards an automatic 1st down). So I don't think we differ there.[/B][/QUOTE]
Ok. Agreed.
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Originally posted by Suudy
The latter loses me. No penalty will make the ball reach the goal line. You can get infinitesimaly close, but not reach it. And even if you could, wouldn't reaching it be a score, not a first down?
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Holding is a 10 yard foul. If the LS is within the 10, then applying 10y reaches the GL. Therefore, it is HTD and AFD. And we don't scrimmage from within the 1, because we have a 1y NZ.
Let's say it was 2D/12 from the 18 (having to get to the 6). A defensive 10y foul goes HTD (not 10, b/c 10 > 9), but is *not* an AFD.
IOW, when we say reaching the GL, we mean an AFD.