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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by tomegun
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Yes, there should have been. they should have counted the basket and they flat out blew it. Vitale blew it too. he said the ball had to be released before the shot. Dead wrong. Interestingly enough, Burr originally counted the basket, then changed it after talking to Gray.
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In looking at the replays, I believe that the act of shooting had not yet begun. Therefore, the off-ball foul by Duke made the ball dead and the goal was correctly waved off.
It was certainly close though.
Just my opinion.
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I did not see this play. However, can someone describe what the shooter was doing at the time the foul occured? I would really like to know if he was NOT in the act of shooting.
Just to be nitpicky: Mr. Gray's name is spelled Donnee, not Donnie.
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Damn good question, Tommy... er, Tommie, I mean To....screw it! 
He's lucky I didn't call him Dummee after talking Burr out of that one. The IU player had clearly started his shooting motion before the foul occurred. He was even in the air about to release the ball when the whistle came. They just flat out blew it and I'm sure were told so today.
NV, you must be yelling "ON THE FLOOR, ON THE FLOOR!" an awful lot in your games if you thought there wasn't continuous motion on that play. It was text book.
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I guess we just are seeing the timing of the foul differently. In my opinion at the moment that Sheldon Williams hooks the arm of the IU player under the basket and pulls him aside, the IU player driving down the end line is just gathering the ball at the end of his dribble in preparation for a jumpstop.
I agree that the whistle came slightly after this point, but to me that is what the "shooter" was doing when the foul occurred. After this moment, the "shooter" can be seen landing simultaneously on both feet and then jumping up for the try.
I don't consider the action of making a jumpstop part of the act of shooting.
As I said above, I thought it was a close call, but I've watched it three times and still believe that DonnEE Gray got it right.
Tony perhaps you consider the foul to happen later, but for me it is the initial contact with the arms that determines it. And I never say, "on the floor." I'm a "no shot" guy.