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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Ref in PA
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Ref in PA
We discussed this in our association and determined:
One foot oob = on court
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Next time you discuss it, hopefully someone will point out that determination is completely wrong as per rule 7-1-1.
Would you have used the same definition if A1 had kept dribbling and then run into B1? Kinda contrary to case book play 4.23.3SitB(a), isn't it?
Methinks your rules interpreter needs someone to interpret the rules for him.
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I cannot argue that by a strict interpretation of the rule that a violation should be called. Yet 4.23.3 Sitch B is still in the case book. It is the play where the defender has a foot touching oob. The ruling is not a violation on the defender for being oob but a blocking foul. If that is the case, it seems the FED is not using a strict interpretation in this case.
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That still doesn't change the fact that the case book play sez that the defender is OOB with one foot on the line, or that R7-1-1 is also saying that the defender is OOB with one foot on the line.
Your interpreter is saying however that a player with one foot on a side or end line is in-bounds, and is trying to interpret another rule using that erroneous assumption.
Now, either the NFHS rule and case books are wrong or your interpreter is wrong.
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I'm not sure I agree with where you're taking this. I think you want to call a violation on B1 when his foot is on the line because A1 subsequently lost the ball without contact. Are you saying B1 is *unauthorized* to "leave the court" (have his foot on the line) because A1 lost the ball? Or do you call this immediately? More generally, do you call it whenever ANY player tippy-toes on the line?
FWIW, I got nuthin here without contact.