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Did this thread take a strange twist, or is it justme?
This thread was not started as debate of "getting" the calls right, or even offering help. The thread began as a question regarding double super secret signals. My experience over the years has been similar to Tee's: Secret signals do not remain secret for long and can cause umpires grief.
In reference to your subject, of course there are instances, particulary homerun/ground rule double decisions, in which umpires will offer assistance. If you've noticed the recent changes at the NCAA and ML level, these do not involve "secret" signals.
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