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Originally posted by Carl Childress
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Originally posted by PWL
You still have to enforce the violations in the order that they occurred. Therefore, we have C. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Not necessarily. There are several case plays where one offense is superseded by another that happened after the first. See 8.4.2 Situations T and and U for examples.
There are also a couple interesting case plays 3.2.2 Situation A and B. In A a coach assisting a runner is allowed because the runner is assisted during a dead ball award. In B a coach assisting a runner results in an out during a live ball.
None of this matters to the play in question. The runner is not awarded home (at least there is no evidence in the question to do so), and even if he were it's still a live ball and he needs to run the bases legally, without assistance from coach.
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If you are talking about malicious contact, illegal slide, hurdling, or jumping. Yeah, your right. But that is not the case here. I don't have a rule book or case book handy, so it is difficult for me to quote where to find things. I prefer to do it like this since I don't have them on the field. But, I did it just now to see if I could find anything. The best I could find in the FED case book is 8.3.2 Situation H. See if that helps
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This helps in that it says we should rule on things in the order they occured, but as I mentioned, it is not necessarily always so. Some things supercede others, such as those you listed.
I love this discussion, but if I saw this exact case on the field I would say C is the answer. Every FED coach should know that obstruction is one base minimum, or more if the umpire decides the obstruction merits more. But every FED coach should also know that helping a runner to his feet is an OUT. I have learned herein that if it is during a dead ball award it is not an out.
In this case I think it is a short discussion with the coach, who will never help a runner to his feet again....ever, if he is smart.