[BigUmp56]

Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue

One can only imagine which crevice these thoughts eked from. Just a few days ago, your pontificating drew the wrath of those who feel slighted by your comments about single man games.

WWTB, those comments were directed at your nonsense about the need to move farm equipment before a game, and you know it!

You alleged that rookies should never work alone, associations should demand at least two umpires for every game and those that don't have "no jewels".

Yes, and I will stand by those statements. There is no way an association should throw a rookie umpire onto a field solo. If they do, they're not much of an association. If they do this, they're not doing either the rookie, or the game any favors. They are accepting substandard conditions if they do.

As you grow and mature, you'll understand how stupid these comments make you look. I've witnessed some awful two man games and even more ridiculous three man contests. Having a useless veteran out there will only make the rookie worse.

You're once again attempting to swith focus with these statements. The issue is not about useless veterans, it's about how those veterans became useless. Throwing rookies onto the field solo creates these so called useless veterans you're talking about. I'm not saying that all veterans who got their start working solo are useless. I'm saying that they had to pay a higher price while becoming a veteran without an experienced partner to help. I'll say it again, so please read it reeeaaalll slooowly WWTB. Roookie uuumpires neeeed ooon fiiieeellldd iiin sttrructiioon in ooorder tooo iimpprooovee. Did you get it this time WWTB? And, if being a long time union member with strong opinions on working conditions means I'm immature, then yes, you can call me immature. I'll consider it a compliment. Although I must say that your riding in to attempt to save the day for Pete and Kaliix is pretty much what defines immaturity to me.


I've also found that a rookie usually does things by the book and knows what he is supposed to do.

Another peach of a comment from the master of smoke and mirrors. How do you think a rookie can possibly know what to do without instruction? Do you think that they should just be given a rule book and tossed out there to fend for themselves? Now you're saying that a rookie umpire is better than a veteran in your eyes. Who gives these rookies a post game critique? The managers?


Umpires like you think that they know it all because they have been at it for a few years. How many years have you been umpiring High School Varsity baseball? How many years have you been calling NCAA games?


Nice try WWTB, you know full well what my credentials are. You're just baiting me. I've been very open about the fact that last spring was my first year working NFHS games. That doesn't change the fact that I've worked American Legion summer games for at least 7 years now, or that I've been umpiring LL, Babe Ruth, and Mickey Mantle baseball for 15 years. Before that, I worked ASA softball for three years, so don't play that crap with me Windster. I do know what I'm talking about.

You are an internet umpire; a very bad one at that.

No, I'm a real living breathing honest to goodness decent umpire that enjoys exchanging ideas with other umpires from around the country. Is Carl an "internet umpire?" What about Tee or GarthB, or Pete Booth, or Rich Fronhesier?

You want to play by the rules of the other site but then claim to be above it all.

You keep bringing up that site. The only posts I've made on that disgusting site for months were posts admonishing Gary for maintaining such a putrescent site along with a link to a small message board I started. I did this in an attempt to draw individuals that were seeking answers away from such an embarassment to baseball officials. I did make a couple of posts on the basketball board to thank the guys for all the hard work they do. I'd just spent the day watching my 13 year old son play a tournament, and was impressed by the work that they do. Even that thread soon degraded to filth with someone using my first name to make a rude post.

You claim that I am condescending because you have an inferiority complex. Start practicing what you preach.

No, I don't need to claim anything. You are a rude condescending angry little man. I know I'm not alone in that assesment. I don't have an inferiority comlex WWTB. What I do have is strong dis-like for people with a superiority complex. You fit the bill 100%. You're the one who lords his writing skills over all of us peasants like you're the cock of the walk, when the fact is you're just the first part of that persona.(I'm sure you can figure that out as smart as you think you are!)


I can cite dozens of examples of your being a "disruptor", in the terms of the agreement page.

Well, WWTB, please proceed. I'd love to read those posts myself.


You and SDS might also want to check the part about posting copyrighted pictures or works not owned by The Official Forum. This is not ebay.


This one has to be the stupidest thing you've ever said. Pictures of equipment are not copyrighted. You know this, but you still feel the need to say something disparaging no matter how petty it it. If the forum took exception to the pics I've posted in the past. They would have deleted them and told me not to do it again. Stop speaking as if you know what this forum want's. You don't.
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TAC,

You have sunk into the mire. Must I remind you that you have posted about challenging the veracity of an opinion rather than the grammar and spelling used? Maybe you could write a column about flip flopping when it suits your needs. I'm sure it won't require much editing.
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Garth,
I read your earlier post and understand what you wrote. You are correct that you won't convince me to change my stance on VO. Your mockery of Pete was expected. He made a grammatical mistake and you jumped all over it. Check out what I wrote to TAC, it applies equally to you. You must be a legendary umpire in your parts. I would love to see the umpire who never makes mistakes at work. When is your next game?


I was going to adress these supid comments, but I'll stay out of these guys battles. They can certainly handle a troll like you.

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Pete,
You've now experienced the best they have to offer. BigUmp56 and SanDiegoSteve are one trick ponies. Where one stops.....

Now you're the one who needs a course in remedial reading. Steve and I have disagreed on many things in the past. We've done so while becoming good friends. We were able to do this because we have a good understanding of what respect is. It's alright to have a point of view opposite of someone else's. I don't need affirmation from him, and he doesn't need affirmation from me. That's what being an adult is about WWTB. Being able to disagree without taking things to the level of insults you shrowd people in.

Let me finish with this.

I now have 40 other umpires from around the country enjoying the board I started. I doubt that you even have 40 friends period, judging by the way you talk to people.

I've recieved numerous e-mails from individuals on this board telling me it's best just to ignore you WWTB, and hopefully you'll just go away. They see you for who you truly are. A troll with nothing better to do with his time than put others down as if you were the Lord of the internet.

Tim.

[Edited by BigUmp56 on Nov 20th, 2005 at 10:14 PM]