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Old Wed Nov 16, 2005, 12:33am
Nevadaref Nevadaref is offline
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
a lodged ball which occurs on a pass is no longer an AP situation. Due to the new rule this year we go POI.
I thought the POI was only used for double or simultaneous fouls, and not for other AP situations.
Boy, Nevada. I was feeling bad that you caught me on that spelling error. But not so much now. LOL.
Ok, the lightbulb in my head is back on now. What I wrote above is definitely wrong. We still use the AP arrow on a pass which lodges between the ring and backboard despite the fact that there is team control in this situation.

That there is team control during this play is what got me screwed up, and since I have to blame someone for messing me up, I'm going to put this on you, Chuck. Here's why.

In this thread: http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...2&pagenumber=1

you wrote:
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Mregor
The ball gets lodged or comes to rest on the flange seems to fit the definition.
As long as the "wedgie" is the result of a try. If it's the result of a deflected pass, then there's still team control.
That is, of course, correct. There is team control during passing between teammates, and since the definition being discussed here was 6-4-3e: "The ball becomes dead when neither team is in control and no goal or infraction or end of a quarter or extra period is involved." This situation doesn't fall within that rule.

It is now clear to me that all you were pointing out was that this situation is NOT covered by 6-4-3e, however, it IS still covered by 6-4-3d. Thus it still results in an AP throw-in, just for a different reason.

However, at the time I read your post, I took a wild leap and for some crazy reason concluded that since this situation (passed ball lodging) doesn't fall under the purview of 6-4-3e, it must therefore no longer result in an AP throw-in. Obviously wrong!
Additionally, with my neurons firing at top speed, but no one at the helm to guide them, I figured that this must now be covered by the new POI rule since afterall there is team control and we could just give the ball back to that team.

All total garbage. It must be true that life is all downhill after turning 30.

So my sincere apologies to anyone that I confused with my earlier post, and my sincere thanks to Chuck and JR for setting me straight before I stepped onto the court this season and screwed it up.



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