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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Did A1's act of shooting and try start during the second half? YES.
A1's act of shooting and try are part of the second half. A1 was fouled in the act of the shooting. The penalty for the foul in the act of shooting is part of the second half.
Both the NFHS and NCAA (see my second posting on the play) state that: "No penalty or part of a penalty shall carry over from one half or extra period."
Lets change Play (b) to make the contact between A1 and B1 charging by A1. No before anybody goes nuts, let me explain that under NCAA Men's Rules, this contact would be incidental unless it was intentional or flagrant. But under NFHS/NCAA Women's this would be a player control foul by A1 even if the contact was after the ball had become dead (meaning successful field goal attempt) and the goal would be disallowed and A1 would be charged with a player control foul.
The fact is that A1 was fouled in the act of shooting and the fouls that are the penalty for that foul are part of the second half. There is no way that the free throws can be part of the overtime period.
I think that if you would take this question to Ed Bilik, Barb Jacobs, and Mary Struckhoff, they will agree with me, because it would be illogical (not to say against the rules) for the penalty for a foul committed in the second to be part of the ensueing overtime period.
Just look at Play (b), has the second half clearly ended if A1 is still airborne and while still airborne is then fouled by B1.
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"No penalty or part of a penalty shall carry over from one half or extra period."
Mark, this is what I was thinking too. But a close
reading of the rules might indicate differently. As Tony
points out there's nothing in there to extend the period
merely because there's a
shooter. We only extend
the period when there's a
try, as far as I can
see. I'm still digging in the book, I made some inquiries
of my own as well. As for your bringing in the airborne
shooter rule wrt PC, I don't think it's relevant simply
because the try and the act of shooting are independent to
an extent. In fact in the women's rules and NFHS the
PC foul is extended to include the airborne shooter.
Anyway, it's a great discussion! I suspect Lotto's
question might not have been entirely innocent!
