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Old Sat Nov 05, 2005, 04:12am
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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue


Of course it is speculative, Barry Bonds is a mute when it comes to admitting he did it. Jeff, do you think Mark McGwire took steroids? Do you think Frank Thomas, Pudge Rodriguez, Luis Gonzalez, Sammy Sosa or Ken Caminiti did? How about Mr. October, Reggie Jackson or Dave Winfield? All have been suspected of using some sort of illegal enhancement in order to be more competitive and all are power hitters. All were plagued with injuries after tremendous mucle growth. During the 70's and early 80's, enough ball players have admitted that they took "greenies" (amphetamines) to gain an advantage that it became accepted. More and more players are being caught or admitting that they did the same with steroids.
I do not know who took steroids and I do not care who took steroids. Maybe all the players that took greenies we should put an asterisk on their stats too? Or why not put an asterisk on the players that drunk themselves into a drunken stopper every night and could hardly play the game the following day. Did it ever occur that players actually take care of themselves these days and this is the reason Mickey Mantle did not hit more home runs. What about Babe Ruth? Would Babe Ruth survive today being a drunk and womanizer if he had to live up to todayÂ’s standards of fitness and social scrutiny? Remember the media did not ever report the personal lives of public figures, but now if someone talks out of turn every word is repeated 100 times in a few minutes.

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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
The game has become more competitive and the money too great for athletes to be average. Once a guy has HOF after his name, he will not admit that he took illegal substances in order to get there. Steroids are not just for building huge mass. They can take an average player with a good eye and make him a superstar. Those fast twitch muscles, coupled with increased mass make .160 hitters become .300 hitters. Hitting the ball hard enough to get through a gap is just as important as hitting it over the fence. That is how steroids make you a better baseball player.
You might be right, but if you listen to the old timers talk about their sport (NFL, MLB or NBA). These guys did things that today would be considered lazy or not hard working. So of course you can equate numbers to steroids, but in the 50s players were not taking very good care of themselves either. Stadiums are smaller. There was a time when hitting a home run out of Busch Stadium was much harder. The Astrodome was used by the Astros. Now both stadiums produced records in home runs with much shorter fences and not very skilled pitching. You are right. It is all about the drugs.

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