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Old Mon Oct 29, 2001, 07:06pm
Ed Hickland Ed Hickland is offline
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Re: Yeah but...

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by bigwhistle
Tony,

By your shortcutting the proper procedures and not putting time back on the clock, your observer was totally correct to ask you the question about the untimed down. Since everyone thought you ruled that the foul and the clock occurred at the same time, an untimed down should have been expected.

This being said, I don't blame you for how you handled it. Just remember that a shortcut may sometimes not lead to the right destination at the end of the journey.
Nope, you missed it. By rule, there no untimed down as this was a dead ball foul. To have an untimed down, there must be a foul during the last down of the period. A down doesn't begin until the ball is snapped. So whether I put the 1 second on the clock or not, the observer is wrong, as there is no untimed down. If there had been 10 seconds remaining on the clock, I would wind the clock. If A did not get the play off, there would not be an untimed down.

My real question was would you have put the 1 second back on the clock, only to wind the clock on the ready and have time expire anyway since there's no chance of A legally getting a play off?
Well, the delay of game was a dead ball foul. But remember under 3-6-2, 3-4-1i and 3.6.2 acceptance of the penalty causes the clock to start on the snap. The snap occurred with one second remaining and the play continues after time expires.

The pass interference was a live ball foul. Under 3-3-3a acceptance of the penalty requires an untimed down.

Within 25 seconds or less I always give the captain his options and the status of the clock should he accept or decline.
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