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Old Thu Nov 03, 2005, 11:38am
Suudy Suudy is offline
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We have had some discussions on what actually constitutes flagging roughing the passer. Specifically we are talking about double-reverse passes, halfback passes, rollouts, etc. The discussion is whether the person throwing the ball has protection, regardless of the action leading up to the pass.

In all the examples below, the ball has been clearly passed from behind the NZ.

1. A1 takes the snap and sprints out to the left. A1 throws a forward pass beyond the NZ.

2. A1 takes the snap, pitches to A2. A2 rolls left and throws a forward pass beyond the NZ.

3. A1 takes the snap, hands off to A2 going left. A2 hands off to A3 going right. A3 throws a forward pass beyond the NZ.

4. A1 takes the snap and throws a backwards pass to the left to A2. A2 throws a forward pass beyond the NZ.

In all these examples, is the call RTP or just a personal foul? The argument in our association has been that since the action leading up to the pass indicates a running play, B does not have a reasonable expectation that a pass will be thrown.

On the other side, people are quoting 9.4.4. Nowhere in 9.4.4 does it say anything about action before the pass. Yet the casebook only addresses #1 above explicitly. I'm in the camp that all 4 cases can be RTP.
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