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Originally posted by Nate1224hoops
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by deecee
most everyone wants to be -- and maybe has to be -- right so they say things that they are 100% right on and is supported in the rules book -- everything else, even if thats how they ref, they wont mention because subjectivity is not part of the rulebook but unfortunatly its part of the game.
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And, never having met any of us, you know that is true....how?
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The point I was trying to make about SUBJECTIVITY is that what you consider a foul, I may not. And vice-versa. I may view that bump and just hard basketball. You may see it as the offense trying to get an advantage. Everything that happens on the floor is subjective to the individual official.
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Being supported by the rule book is a good thing, Nate, not a bad thing. When a ref calls a foul, if that call isn't supported by the rule book, that ref won't be on the floor many more times. The rule book is there to define what's legal and what's not, and the ref is there to see that those boundaries are enforced.
Again, subjectivity isn't part of the equation. Judgement is. Refs use judgment to determine when the rules are broken. Their judgment needs to be informed by the rules as written, and by the interpretations that their peers put onto the rules. There are more categories of refs than rulebookers and others. There are "otheres" that "let 'em play" and others that "keep it tight". THere are those that do more talking at the beginning of the game, and those that talk less.
There are lots of styles and lots of personalituesm ut each must submit to the trends in their locale and in their association or there would be chaos. When we talk about how we interpret the rules of contact, we aren't just trying to puff ourselves up for our own aggrandizement. YOu asked about a situation, and we answered our of our experience, interpretations and observations of countless games and many, many refs. You are free to reject all that. But don't throw it in our faces. YOu asked after all!