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Old Thu Oct 20, 2005, 11:20am
David B David B is offline
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Same call second verse

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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
Well, some veterans believe that those watching expect a certain call to be made rather than the one that actually happened. Their millieu feel that it is more important to do what is expected rather than what is fair.

Others subscribe to the Dave Yeast camp. Bust your ***, get in position and work together to call the game correctly. Major League Baseball also ascribes to this method. Sometimes egos get in the way of making the proper call.

I saw the call and it looks like that's what happened. If you see a player a dozen or more times a year, you'll establish respect for the others' honesty. It is likely that he asked him just to sell himself on the call - he's human after all and this is a pressure situation. We've all made calls that make us second guess what really happened. Maybe we were too quick or just blinded by a movement we didn't anticipate. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he was working where few of us dare to dream. He could have asked for help, but they've also been taught to offer it as a crew. Like the dropped third strike, they have subtle signals for conferencing. Maybe be 1BU didn't have a clean look.

I'll agree that it was the expected call. The replay also showed that it was the wrong call. We don't have video on many high school fields, but I've been haunted by college tapes that showed my crew kicking one. We remember the bad ones for a long time- so do those watching. A2D.
I can probably say that the same call would be made in NCAA (even though I'm sure Dave Yeast would disagree)

So basically we're saying the umpire not only didn't hustle (to get into position), but also that he was in the wrong position?

But basically, that's his call, you don't ask for help on a judgement call where basically no one else is looking.

When you've been around the game as much as these guys, (at least I know its that way with me and they've done more ball than I) you're there, its not your call and you're not really worried about it because you know he's going to make the right call.

And I should add, a good coach knows that and is not going to ask him to "ask for help" on a basic play.

The only guy that's got the pressure is the one making the call.

Thanks
David
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