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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Chuck:
You are correct about NFHS R10-S3-A10, but the definition of a personal foul takes precedence in defining what is and is not a personal foul.
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Not that it's really critical (b/c whether it's a flagrant personal or flagrant technical, the player is ejected), but why would you say that the "personal" definition "takes precedence"? I'm pretty sure that the Rule 10 reference is explicit. A player is charged with a flagrant technical foul when -- he is charged with fighting. This seems pretty clear. Why would a much more complicated explanation have precedence?
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Another point that should be remembered that may not be apparent is that you can have only one person charged with fighting. A player's actions can be to instigate a fight and if the victim does not retaliate then only one person is charged with fighting.
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I agree completely, but this isn't the case in the example you cited. You talked about two players exchanging punches. So while I agree with your point above, I'm not sure why you made it. What were you trying to get at?
Chuck
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In this case the personal foul definition takes precedence over the R10-S3-A10, because there are only two types of fouls: personal and technical.
Personal fouls are contact fouls when the ball is live (I have not forgotten the airborne shooter provision, I just want to keep it simple. All other fouls are technical fouls.
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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
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