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Old Fri Oct 19, 2001, 01:57pm
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is offline
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Re: Are you sure?

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.


while A1 was dribbling the ball, A2 and B2 traded punches. There were officials that were charging these as flagrant technical fouls and awarding free throws to both teams. This was not correct. These fouls were flagrant personal fouls
Are you sure about this? Isn't exchanging punches considered fighting? Isn't fighting a flagrant technical foul, even if the ball is live? I'm pretty sure your assessment of the above situation is incorrect.

Chuck

The following rule references cover the situation I described:

NFHS R4-S18: Fighting is a flagrant act and can occur when the ball is dead or live. Fighting includes, but is not limited to combative acts such as:
A1: An attempt to strike, punch or kick an opponent with a fist, hands, arms, legs or feet regardless of whether contact is made.
A2: An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsporting act toward an oppoenent that causes an oppoonent to retaliate by fighting.

NFHS R4-S19-A1: A personal foul is a player foul which involves illegal contact with an opponent while the ball is live, which hinders an opponent from performing normal defensive and offensive movements. A personal foul also includes contact by or on an airborne shooter when the ball is dead.

NFHS R4-219-A4: A flagrant foul may be a personal or technical foul of a violent or savage nature, or a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct. It may or may not be intentional. If personal it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as striking, kicking and kneeing. If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct. Fighting is a flagrant act.


Also, the definition of fighting is a relatively new addition to the rules book.
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