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Originally posted by jicecone
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Originally posted by PeteBooth
Originally posted by jicecone
Well it is quite obvious that you "know" less about umpiring than you think. What is this, "I don't think it's intentional" bullcrap? If you had ANY clue whatsoever, you would know that if the umpire is thinking about the last pitch or any other pitch, their not getting ANY of them correct. Especially at the MLB level.
Jicecone, it appeared to me that the strike call on the 3-1 pitch to Edmunds was INTENTIONAL. The reason I say that is that pitch didn't appear to be even questionable and Cuzzi was taking a lot of "crap" from LaRussa as well as some of the other Cardinal Players all game long. Also, LaRussa was shooting his mouth off about the umpiring the previous day. Apparently both LaRussa and Edmunds didn't get the message.
You would think that after Cuzzi threw out LaRussa and he called the 3-1 pitch to Edmunds a strike, that Edmunds would have got "the message" and knew what was going on and simply said nothing and get ready for the 3-2 pitch.
It's typical LaRussa blame everyone but himself and his players. The Cardinal hitters are 2 for a million with runners in scoring position.
Pete Booth
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Don't have a problem with "intentional" Peter, I have had to utilize that form of getting a message across myself, in some games.
My point, was the implication that umpires make calls because of some subliminal reason that no one can explain, as kcs_hiker was trying to imply here.
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Subliminal is your word not mine. I suggested that Cuzzi knew that he had missed the ball three call, and was making up for it on the next pitch. I mentioned that umpires are probably not even aware that they do that... else then they wouldn't do it.
You then called me clueless, and said that an umpire who thought about previous pitches wasn't going to get any of them right... I don't agree with the clueless part, but I agree with the second half of your statement. That's what I thought Cuzzi did... it's what it looked like he did. What's your explanation?
edited to add: after rereading your post, I wonder if you are suggesting that Cuzzi INTENTIONALLY called that pitch a strike so as to send a message? Kinda like our home-town Smitty calling slow-pitch who called a pitch over a batters head a strike and then said to him 'how do you like that' after the batter questioned strike two?
[Edited by kcs_hiker on Oct 17th, 2005 at 01:42 PM]