Sat Oct 15, 2005, 12:26pm
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Re: Not all true!
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Originally posted by David B
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by rockyroad
Listening to the interviews with all the Angels players and with Scioscia, they aren't really too hung up with that play...
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And that shows both class and understanding of the game. I'm not trying to say that plate umpire cost the Angels the game. All I'm saying is that he made a call that he had no business making. We constantly tell guys, "If you don't know, don't guess". The ump just picked a really unfortunate time to make a guess.
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Sorry Churck but in baseball its the job of the plate umpire to call::
Ball and strikes
That's his most important job so you can't say he had no business making the call.
Secondly, he did know what happened because as an umpire you can see the ball hit the ground, you can see a short hop etc., especially calling with the big boys.
I'm not a MLB umpire, but I've called college ball and its amazing what you can see with a good catcher etc.,
Finally, if in doubt, signal the swing and look at the actions of the players. The batter took off immediately so that tells you something he saw.
If you do college ball then you should know... If in doubt he's out. Why would you key on batter runner? I would trust my catcher (especially at the higher levels) to know whether or not he caught the ball. Rolling it to the pitcher would most probably "sell me" that he caught the ball clean.
And then you always have the 1st and 3rd base umpires to look at for help. I didn't see it shown on TV, but I'm sure the 3rd base umpire gave a signal.
That play is hard to see from the bases. Third base umpire has the righty batter and catchers leg in the way. First base umpire has catchers leg in the way. If replay can be judged as inconclusive I doubt from over 100 feet away you could expect help from your partners in this particular case.
And then you could see first base umpire moving into the field for the play at first, so he knew it hit the ground also.
First base umpire moving easily explained. He has BR running to first and still has a possible call to make. It doesn't necessarily mean he saw the ball hit the dirt.
Just my take on a crazy play.
Thanks
David
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