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Old Wed Oct 17, 2001, 10:57am
JimNayzium JimNayzium is offline
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I think the real test here is intent isnt it?

First, they don't do it every play, that is just what the ref told me would make it legal. I know they don't do it every play because later in the game they punted and did not do it. Should they now be given a false start because of their previous shift.

The offensive unit, moved rapidly and yelled "Go!". If this doesn't simulate the beginning of a play than nothing else should. It is really irrelevant to me as a coach what type of movement happens or whether or not it looks like pass blocking or whatever...It is rapid movement by more than one offensive player, which only happens when the ball snaps.

YES, by the way, our kids ran extra monday for jumping offsides, and they were stupid to fall for it. I am not defending my players, i just want to know the proper ruling.

What seems weird to me is if they do it every time it makes it somehow legal. So they have a normally illegal shift that if they execute every time makes it legal..

Here's what I got to say about that.

"Yes Mr. White Hat, we know that you can't tackle the people you are blocking, but I am telling you now ahead of time, that my linemen will grab and tackle their defensive linemen every play. Since I told you ahead of time, and we plan to do it every play this is now legal, Right?"

Give Me a Break.

A Side note: another team in our conference shifts in what i think is a legal way around the rule. They shift from tight punt to wide punt or vice versa based on the block strategy by their opponent. They obviously do it to draw us offisides because they only do it when it is fourth and less than five, but at least they have come up with something to tell the referee that seems honorable.

HEres another one/////???

What if the Left Guard on offense had not put his hand down yet, but everyone else has. He stands up suddenly asking the Quarterback what the snap count is? Is this an illegal shift? I think so, but what do you all think.?


Another one we have been working on lately because of our long season...this one is just for fun..
All of our linemen line up in their proper position tight end through tackle, but they all (except for the center are four yards in the backfield.) Do you picture it...The Quarterback under center, the fullback right behind him, and the guards tackles and ends aligned parallel to the fullback. The halfbacks are behind the tackles. So right now we have one player aligned on the line of scrimmage, the center.

The Quarterback Yells "Braveheart!" and the other linemen yell "Freedom!" as they charge towards the line and immediately jump into their three point stance.

This one i dont really even care if it is illegal. we did it in practice one day and it was so funny, that when you are 2-8 it just maybe worth the five yard false start just to put it on the highlight film.

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