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		| Originally posted by BktBallRef 
 
	Agreed.  Thanks Tom.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Theisey Why do we need another tread for this?
 
 A flag for roughing the passer who was just moments before a runner or roughing a kicker who just moments ago was a runner is judgemental and therefore this call is going to vary from ref to ref.
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 BBR  I don't think Theisey said anything that supports your argument. A kicker who just moments ago was a runner implies he has kicked the ball. The only way you can have a "kicker" is when the ball is kicked. He may be the intended kicker but he must actually kick the ball to meet the definition of "kicker"