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Originally posted by JimNayzium
1. Is there a website that has the current Nat. Fed. rule book so I can reference it online and not have to have my rule book everywhere I go?
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No, the NF forbids the publishing of their rule books on the Internet. But email me and I can help you out with an edition that will work on your computer.
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2. My game tonight, Friday 13th of October. The other team lines up to punt. All of their line is set for one full second in a two point stance. Simultaneously, all seven linemen scream "GO" and shift rapidly into a three point stance. No strategical shift like from tight to wide or anything like that. It was a predisigned shift that had as its only purpose to simulate the snap and draw us offisides. My white cap told me that since they do it everytime it is OK. Am I just way off here??? I thought any shift by the offense that simulated the snap and drew the defense into the neutral zone was a foul on the offense???
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The Referee is correct. If they use the shift every time that snap the ball, it's legal. If they do it once, on 4th down with 5 or less to go, and it's obviously done to draw the defense offsides, its a foul.
But don't you reveiw film of your opponents? If you do, then you should know that they will do this. Can't you prepare for this?
BTW, Friday was the 12th, even though it may have seemed like the 13th!
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3. In the same game the referee enforced a five yard face mask against my team like this.....It was 2 and 5. We, the defense, sacked their quarterback for an 8 yard loss. As we sacked him we face masked. They enforced the five yard face mask from the spot of the foul and made it 2nd and 8, instead of from the previous spot, 1st and TEN.
See this one was in my favor, but next week these same guys might call this again and it work against me. Am I right that it should have been first and ten for the other team? I am not saying they were out to get me, they were just somewhat incompetent.
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No, there weren't incompetent, they were correct. While you seem to be very knowledgable, you may need to bone up on the All But One Principle. This is a running play. A foul by the defense will be enforced from the end of the run.
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4. Lastly, we run the veer. I have told the referees for two straight weeks to blow a long slow whistle and make sure the quarterback doesn't have the ball before blowing the play dead when the full back is tackled. Two weeks in a row, the same umpire, (who will be on my black list next week.) has blown an inadvertant whistle on TOUCHDOWNS! Last week it was a fifty yard touchdown, no one in the Northern Hemisphere knew my qb still had the ball, he was thirty yards past everyone as the late lazy whistle sounded as my fullback got tackled. Tonight it was around a forty yard mistake in the first quarter of a drive that fissled later. What can I do? If I execute perfectly it costs me because the refs cannot keep up. What should I do?
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Whether it's a long slow whistle or a late lazy whistle, it's still going to be an inadvertent whistle.
BTW, when this occurs, you have the option of taking the ball where it was when the whistle was blown. So while you may not get the TD, you should get the 30 yard gain.
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The same umpire told me that if both of my wings went into motion at the same time, as long as one of them stopped before the snap i would be fine since they had all been set for one second before they went into motion.....that is when i gave up and decided i was in the midst of true anti-talent....what do you? Any help would be great..
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Obviously, that's not true. Just make your players do it correctly.
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Last year Three different times, referees made me decline a roughing the kicker on a try to keep the point. They said my choices were replay from the one and half, or decline for the point to stay. I said I want it on the kick off and three different referees told me that was not one of my choices......
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Well, again, it's obvious that is not true. Do you have any contact with the person who books the officiating crews? If you do, call him, explain the problem(s) in a professional manner, and then send him the film.
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Here is the 64,000 dollar question...Who were these referees? They were the best of the best in my league, the booking agents and the training referees. Guess what state and league I coach in.....
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I don't know where you are. I just hope and assume it isn't in Mass. or Texas, because I'm referring to NF rules!
Drop me an email!