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Originally posted by phumbeutel33
What follows is a little lesson in baseball:

Anyone watching the White Sox game? Well, top of the second, 2nd out is SO on a pitch clearly out of the strikezone. Batter (Veritek? Can't recall.) barks at umpire. Piazza, doing color announcing, says "They all knew it coming in. Hirschbeck has a wide zone." This is after first inning commentary on the strikezone where it was said "well, it's consistent, but the strikezone is wide. Hirschbeck wants them up there swinging the bat."
ANd your point is what? If the players know....

In other words, it can contribute to lower scores and poorer offensive numbers.

So after an inning and a half, the commentary has already twice talked about the fact that the home plate umpire's strikezone is known in the league, is exceptionally wide, and will be a factor in the game. But I guess all of you know more than Mike Piazza, a catcher, dealing with the umpires, for what, 15 years now? Or perhaps Piazza, like me, is just an idiot. What fool thinks umpires have tendencies, that umpires call games certain ways, and that, god forbid, they can be quantified and contribute to the outcome of a game?? Fools, we are!!!

( Nobody said umpires don't have tendencies.)

As an earlier post said, yes, knowing the umpire is for betting. It is one factor. Not the end all and be all factor, but a factor. There is no factor that is the only factor to consider when betting baseball. There are probably 10 crucial ones, and knowledge of all of them leads to an educated bet. Knowing the umpire is one of them.


No, you will not get rich on betting on umpires, but it is important, especially if betting overs and unders. Wide strike zones generally bring about low scores. Tight zones, especially with a team like Boston that is known for patience at the plate, play into a higher score for a hitting team like Boston. Wide zones detract.

( Maybe you should contact the "mob".I'm sure they have
all the info you can stand.)

As far as what umpires I'm curious about and reading my mind, I don't know how that was so ambiguous. If you had an answer or a site to point me to, I imagine they'd review all the MLB umpires. I can find all the playoff umpires from there. I would think a site that reviews umpires would review all of them.

( All levels of umpires are discussed here.Maybe when you ask for info from people you don't know,perhaps you should
be just a touch more specific. )

But your real answer was: You don't know.

( The real answer is you didn't phrase the question to get
the answer you wanted.)

Another post that says it's a dumb question because "every umpire is going to call the strike zone defined by the rules as consistently as possible." Well...I guess I'd have to say that that's not only a dumb reply, but...well, I won't go further. I suggest watching a little more baseball. The umpires have as distinctive a strike zone as batters have stances. Yes, they keep within the "theory" of the rules, but if you think their zone is defined by the rules and consistent with the rules, you do not follow the nuances of the game. And the nuances of the game are what make the game.

(And if you think you know more about calling balls and strikes than most folks here,I'd love to come out
to the park to watch you work.)

At any rate, I appreciate the hostility and arrogance to my very simple, very innocuous, very politely asked question. I thought I even said "thank you in advance", and was greeted with innane, insulting, and ridiculous commentary.

( Hostility? You don't know from hostility.I would recommend
reading any post by "rulesgeek", "dudeinblue",or several others.They've seen true hostility,full force.)

So without further commentary, I bid all of you respondants a fond "**** you!" Enjoy the playoffs, you ****ing forum dorks!

(And as my sainted mother would say: " And the same to you.....jacka$$" )