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Originally posted by Mark Padgett on 01-31-2000 05:45 PM
Of course you made the correct call. There is a myth that one of the four elements necessary for an "over and back" call is that there must be team control "in the frontcourt", whatever that means.

As I've stated before, the four elements are:
1) there must be team control
2) the ball must have achieved frontcourt status
3) the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in the frontcourt
4) that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt

All four elements were there in your case. As stated above, there was no loss of team control by A. You can only lose team control one of three ways:
1) there is a try or tap for goal
2) there is a dead ball
3) the other team gains team control

Now - why didn't B gain team control when the ball deflected off B1? Because you can only gain team control when you don't have it by one of your players gaining player control. Player control is defined by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. B1 did neither, therefore no player control for B1, therefore no team control for B, therefore no loss of team control for A, therefore you have a violation by team A.

And that's my final answer.

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Good to hear from you Mark, I thought you had died.