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The phrase "even if there is no contct" is not equal to "only if there is no contact".
When there is excessive swinging that creates contact, a violation is still an option: the swinging of the elbows can make the ball dead prior to the contact.
If there is contact, you could have the option of a T if you recognize the violation, judge the ball dead, blow the whistle, then bam. Contact during a dead ball.
You could also have a personal foul if you choose not to call the violation for swinging the elbows (perhaps they were not swung that excessively) but there is still contact (live ball).
You could also have a T for an attempt to strike another player...it's the attempt that gets the T, not the contact.
There are rules to all of these options...it depends on the timing and the judegement of the official.
If there is contact, I'm coming up with some sort of foul.
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